Seems like you could get more honey. I thought I would heat the comb & attempt to separate wax & honey.
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Is that possible without hurting the good stuff in the honey? PMDepends. Heating honey to 1. Many people point to 1. Some even say 1. 00 degrees. Personally, I have no problem heating honey to 1. I get no complaints from my customers.
Though the RAW Honey has been selling pretty well too. What good stuff are you concerned about hurting? KQ6. AR0. 9- 2. 1- 2. PMOne of the states recently put not over 1. F to be defined as raw honey, in their definition of honey.
I try not to take mine over 1. F. Michael Bush. 09- 2. PMI'd say on a hot day honey probably gets to 1. F in a super but the wax is pretty soft and could give way at that temp. But as far as damage, any heat seems to hurt the flavor and anything over 1.
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F I'm sure is breaking down enzymes. Methow. Kraig. 09- 2. AMI am wondering what the maximum temperature the bees will tolerate in the super stack (as opposed to the brood nest). I have been working on some studies on the effects of full sun placement, since it has been recommended so heavily by so many.. In what way and on what?
What temperature to heat honey to make it useable for human consumption? We don't do that w/ milk or steak or vegetables. Unless, I guess, one is into a Raw Foods Diet. AMwhat enzymes could be lost that could contribute to poorer health..? The Thread is about heating honey before HUMAN consumption, isn't it?
On a meaningful level, the nutritional qualities of honey are of little value(?) to human nutrition. We do not NEED or DEPEND on Honey to meet our nutritional needs, do we? So, what meaningful qualities are lost by heating honey, besides taste and color.
Doesn't the meer act of uncapping loose some of the properties of honey associated w/ flavor? Or is it the taste of the wax which makes comb honey taste different from extracted honey from the exact same floral source, botanically and grographically?
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Michael Bush. 09- 2. AMMany of the health benefits of honey have to do with enzymes. The jury is still out on pollen content in honey and alergies. We do not NEED or DEPEND on Honey to meet our nutritional needs, do we?
Not sure about what ya mean by that statement since we don't need meat, milk eggs or cheese to meet our nutritional needs ether. See above. Doesn't the meer act of uncapping loose some of the properties of honey associated w/ flavor?
No Or is it the taste of the wax which makes comb honey taste different from extracted honey from the exact same floral source, botanically and grographically? I never noticed a different taste between comb and RAW honey. Must be the heat thing. It is going to get heated then anyway. The rest goes out as wholesale in barrels, never heated. Whatever honey I bottle gets heated to about 1. At those minimum temps the honey maintains color and taste, why heat any warmer?
Florida's honey law does not allow pasteurization so high temps are not legal anyway. If you're going to sell a natural product I believe it ought to be as natural as you can make it. When folks taste the real stuff they're amazed at the difference between natural honey and the junk at the supermarkets. Heating to any temp above 1. I would guess the content of enzymes also. My first job in the bees was with a commercial beek who bottled about half of his own honey. Way back then, late 5.
Heat it if you like, but you're not going to be giving people the same stuff that came out of the hive and that's what my customers want. AMI was indeed referring to bee health.. I was more so discussing my own findings of temps within the supers and chambers of full sun hives in the south.. Looks like someone stayed awake during microbiology class MB.
I can agree that from a humans standpoint, honey is not an essential dietary need, but the enzymes that are within the honey already do help even our bodies to break down the sugars starting within our mouths.. I love honey, but I wouldn't consider it a part of my diet.. LOL A few weeks ago, I was quite sick with what I thought was food poisoning.
Vietnamese owned Chinese buffet + Japanese sushi + tiny ship boat village in the deep cajun bayous = THROW ME OUT OF THE BOAT AND LET THE SHARKS DO WHAT THE DO.. Many people live their entire lives without consuming any honey whatsoever. It simply isnt needed to sustain human life. You body already produces all the enzymes that are needed to sustain life. Despite current health and nutritional fads, consuming supplemental enzymes (from honey for instance) doesnt do much, or at least it hasnt been proven to be beneficial. It is the degradation of the aesthetics qualities of honey (taste, color, consistancy) are affected by most by heating.
AMAfter reading back over my post, I guess I should make one sentence more clear.. Enzymes are absolutely essential for human health.
You would die without them. However, the enzymes added by ingesting a teaspoon or two of raw honey is miniscule compared to the amount of enzymes that are already present in your mouth and gut.
Now I suppose in extremely rare instances a person could develop an enzyme defficiency and become ill. But ff that was the case, one would be far better off by consultaing a doctor than consuming honey in order to correct the situation. Bee Bliss. 09- 2. AMI disagree with the statement that . Many people live their entire lives without consuming any honey whatsoever. It simply isnt needed to sustain human life.
The statement was Many of the health benefits of honey have to do with enzymes. It was never stated as needed, just beneficial. PMThere is a Nutritional Label on bottled water, but other than providing necassary hydration is water nutritious? No enzymes in water, are there? Vitamins or minerals, unless mineral water? There's alot I don't know.
PMI don’t think anyone said it was needed to sustain human life. The statement was Many of the health benefits of honey have to do with enzymes. It was never stated as needed, just beneficial. Nutritional qualities were mentioned in the OP, I believe.
I was merely questioning whether nutritional quality reduction in honey would be all that bad, if heated. PMNot saying that honey isn't great. Certain honey is indeed the only source where all amino acids can be found at once..
The question is, how much of the good stuff makes it to your body? If the nations honey producers are pressed to move all of their hives into full sun, extracting in summer may well have already heated your honey above the temps that begin to break down these good enzymes.. Scrapfe. 09- 2. 2- 2. PMINSTRUCTIONS: Shove tongue firmly into side of cheek before proceeding. SLOW DOWN, If heat higher than 1.
On a more serious note (barely). Honey is antifungal, antibacterial and antiviral.
Honey fuels the liver and the brain, reduces the risk of cardiovascular disease and hypertension. Honey lowers blood sugar.. Honey, it does a body good! Now that is almost as good as the claims of early health food tycoons who claimed that their cereal or faux coffee made blood red. Yes, and also remember we do not need tofu, soy, celery, lemon grass, raw vegetables, or any number of the other subjects in the plant kingdom for good health.
I can't recall or find only one. Honey,Garlic, & Vinegar by Dr. Patrick Quillin) I don't have the best memory for some things, I usually remember what I want to (I'm told). I have not found what temp kills or denatures to a null & void affect. I would have thought that someone would have posted some study or referenced some medical journal.
Quillin says later in chapter about vinegar which applies to most homeopathic interests; . Nice conversation. Roland. 09- 2. 2- 2. PMI believe the OP may have been looking for guidelines for handling his honey. I believe that it is not as simple as just a threshold temperature, but rather it is time at temperature dependent. Has any one seen a study that tested time at temperature?
Crazy Rolandsqkcrk. PMIf you want to bottle for sale the best honey possible, use no heat at all when extracting or bottling. I believe you mentioned crush and strain. I do bottle some RAW honey, never heated, never strained. But, 9. 5% of all the honey I sell is heated and strained, mostly so it won't crystalize on the shelf before it gets purchased. I have to eat that honey myself, businesswise. So heating makes the most sense to me.
Besides, I sit in front of the tanks long enuf as it is. I can't imagine having to sit there twice as long. I would go to only selling buckets. PMI don't expect to crush & strain any more than I have to. I got a couple pounds of honey from some comb & I was looking for a time efficient way to miser every drop.. Aint no time efficient way best az I can seez.
I just gots a new 3. I aint ascared of it neever! I cannot speak authorotatively about it or cite any studies, journals, etc. I think that knowing your product would be useful in enthusiastic marketing.
Dean & his crew are doin a pretty good job @ getting noticed for their passion for better products. I'd like to know simply . It really is an easy sell when you inform people about Chinese imports, benefits of local honey.
Why do we not have truth in labeling laws to help consumers see that you iz the better honeyman? Michael Bush. 09- 2. PM> I would have thought that someone would have posted some study or referenced some medical journal. You would think that thousands of years of unanimous human experience would carry enough weight to warrant a look.. No, I would not agree w/ that. That I would agree w/.
Maybe, maybe not. My customers tell me I provide them the best honey they have ever tasted, so I am going to keep doing what I do. I don't expect anyone else to follow my example. It works for me. lakebilly. AMI posted the question because I was concerned that I couldn't honestly look someone in the eye & say that I sell a product that is as good as I have control over. I think my health is better with an eye on natural over presentable, & I was hoping to have facts to refer to.